Hehe.. ^^ Tack, jag blev faktiskt lite ledsen vad det gäller bilderna på Salepsroten. Det var molnigt den dagen vi såg den. Jag har några andra bilder som är klarare och med bättre fäger, men blomman och kompositionen(säger man så?! Jag har för mig att det kallas composition på engelska.. hmm) var bättre på denna. Men jag gillar småsuddigt och mjuka fäger.. Blir så drömskt!
Anacamptis pyramidalis is still named this way and not transferred to Gymnadenia. In fact, it cannot be removed from Anacamptis since it is the type species, and without it, the genus Anacamptis would not exist any longer.
Yes, Bateman, Pridgeon et al changed a lot, but these changes were done due to genetic data, and the renaming is well supported by hybridization and morphological appearance, as well.
However, placing Anacamptis pyramidalis in Gymnadenia makes no sense at all, in my opinion. First, there is no phylogenetic proof for this, as far as I know the relevant publications. Second, there are no verified hybrids between Anacamptis pyramidalis and any species of Gymnadenia, while A. pyramidalis easily hybridizes with other Anacamptis species. Third, Anacamptis pyramidalis features round tubers, like all related species of Anacamptis, Ophrys, Orchis etc., while Gymnadenia shares "hand-shaped" tubers with the related genus Dactylorhiza. So, I'd be very interested to read any argument concerning transferring A. pyramidalis to Gymnadenia.
Btw, did you already find Nigritella species, those little sisters of Gymnadenia, during one of your trips?
Well, the facts you've given makes me consider a few things. It all seems very legit. ^^
Yeah, that's right. In my book they are actually named Gymnadenia, but that's right, they have another name. And yeah, I've seen one, a supposedly endemic suspecies of Nigritella nigra founds in the mountains of Norway and Sweden. There is another one in Sweden as well, Nigritella runei, which is thought to come into existence from a hybrid between Nigritella nigra and Gymnadenia conopsea. It is endemic. I've not seen this one.
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Tack, jag blev faktiskt lite ledsen vad det gäller bilderna på Salepsroten. Det var molnigt den dagen vi såg den. Jag har några andra bilder som är klarare och med bättre fäger, men blomman och kompositionen(säger man så?! Jag har för mig att det kallas composition på engelska.. hmm) var bättre på denna.
Men jag gillar småsuddigt och mjuka fäger.. Blir så drömskt!
Fine pic, tho!
And I had the same feeling as you do, but I've heard it has changed to Gymnadenia by some. ^^
However, placing Anacamptis pyramidalis in Gymnadenia makes no sense at all, in my opinion. First, there is no phylogenetic proof for this, as far as I know the relevant publications. Second, there are no verified hybrids between Anacamptis pyramidalis and any species of Gymnadenia, while A. pyramidalis easily hybridizes with other Anacamptis species. Third, Anacamptis pyramidalis features round tubers, like all related species of Anacamptis, Ophrys, Orchis etc., while Gymnadenia shares "hand-shaped" tubers with the related genus Dactylorhiza. So, I'd be very interested to read any argument concerning transferring A. pyramidalis to Gymnadenia.
Btw, did you already find Nigritella species, those little sisters of Gymnadenia, during one of your trips?
Yeah, that's right. In my book they are actually named Gymnadenia, but that's right, they have another name. And yeah, I've seen one, a supposedly endemic suspecies of Nigritella nigra founds in the mountains of Norway and Sweden.
There is another one in Sweden as well, Nigritella runei, which is thought to come into existence from a hybrid between Nigritella nigra and Gymnadenia conopsea. It is endemic. I've not seen this one.
Thanks for all the facts! Highly appreciated!